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CFL’s – What’s Holding You Back?

April 18th, 2007 by jayb

If you don’t mind my making broad generalizations, the EnergyRace community is not particularly aggressive with home compact fluorescent bulb (CFL) use.

CFL bulb The CFL is a great way to reduce your Co2 and save money at the same time.  For 26 watts, you can get 100 watts worth of light.  They create less heat which helps reduce cooling needs in summer months.  They last longer which is particularly helpful for those hard to reach spots.  Many years ago they used to create a harsh light but they now come in the same color as incandescent bulbs.  There are versions that are dimmable (although the dimmable ones are much more expensive).

So, EnergyRacers, what is holding you back?  Is it that you keep putting it off?  Don’t like the bulbs?  Can’t find them at the store?  Let us know here with a comment.

Comments

sjehl said...

I’m not sure what has held me back personally - probably lack of awareness. What’s the price comparison?

Posted on: April 18th, 2007 at 1:00pm

TofuRobot said...

I think a buyers guide would be helpful.
Here’s a guide/comparison of some CFL’s vs. an incandescent from Popular Mechanics.

http://tinyurl.com/23f4xk [ URL shortened by ed.]

Hope this helps a bit!
Now if they can also do the same thing for LED’s!

Posted on: April 18th, 2007 at 1:16pm

greenerfutureman said...

I think a buyers guide would be helpful.

Seconded that :-)

BTW. I don’t think your trackbacks are working… .

Posted on: April 18th, 2007 at 3:20pm

djinsane said...

If you look at CFL bulbs on the botton where the male connector is it says HG in a circle which means it contains mercury which is harder to dispose of than normal light bulbs and more damaging to the environment

Posted on: April 18th, 2007 at 5:11pm

greenerfutureman said...

Actually, LED lights are even better and will be available / are already available:

http://www.trendhunter.com/trends/siemens-1000-lumen-led

Posted on: April 19th, 2007 at 3:20am

Hello Moto said...

My problem with the bulbs is that they produce an unpleasing color temperature. Its destroys your ability to get good detail in photographs and makes everything appear darker than it really is.

A mandatory residential version of this device would really solve our problems:
http://hackedgadgets.com/2006/10/14/hybrid-solar-lighting/

Very few if any lights would be needed during daylight hours and it can improve your health by provding full spectrum and natural light.

Posted on: April 21st, 2007 at 10:24am

TofuRobot said...

Home Depot is having some deal today (sunday) where they will give you one free CFL. We ended up getting a bunch of the N:Vision CFL’s and they really are just as bright as the incandescent.

I recommend the Soft Light CFL’s from N:Vision (the green packaging) The other options are Bright Light (red packaging) and Day Light (blue packaging). The red and blue ones are bright but they have that normal florescent light color. Not soo nice.

Also about the recycling of the bulbs, it’s still a pain in the butt, but here’s some links to help:
http://lamprecycle.org/
http://www.earth911.org/

Posted on: April 22nd, 2007 at 12:51pm

said...

“Home Depot is having some deal today (sunday) where they will give you one free CFL. We ended up getting a bunch of the N:Vision CFL’s and they really are just as bright as the incandescent.”

Thanks for the tip TofuRobot!

Posted on: April 22nd, 2007 at 2:02pm

Euclid said...

During one of my graduate engineering courses, I performed a Life Cycle Analysis (LCA) of CFL’s versus incandescent bulbs, from “cradle to grave,” for the product.  Even without any reference to global warming, the economic analysis weighs heavily in favor of CFLs.  They do cost more, but they last much longer.  For me, one big benefit of CFLs is that I don’t have to buy and replace bulbs very often.

Posted on: April 22nd, 2007 at 3:51pm

said...

Thanks Euclid.  Do you still have any of the numbers from your LCA?

Posted on: April 22nd, 2007 at 4:53pm

kelli said...

CFL’s are great we use them throughout our home.

Posted on: April 29th, 2007 at 9:08pm

Josh Hoekwater said...

We’ve switched exclusively to CFLs and honestly, in terms of lighting, I don’t feel a difference, but they last forever, and reduce our energy use AND COST.  I suppose they’re slightly harder to dispose of, but considering how long they last, that’s not something I have to worry about for a long time.

Posted on: May 11th, 2007 at 9:19am

Kelli said...

Josh, You say they are slightly harder to dispose of....How are you suppose to dispose of them?

Thanks!

Posted on: May 12th, 2007 at 8:10pm

said...

Kelli, Earth911.org has a lookup tool that will show you were you can dispose of the bulbs in your zip code.  I think you’ll find that there are a fair number of choices.

Here is the link that goes straight to CFL recycling.

http://www.earth911.org/master.asp?s=ls&cat=1&serviceid=333&type;=-1

-Jay

Posted on: May 14th, 2007 at 7:57am

ddusell said...

I went out and bought a bunch a couple of weeks ago.  You can get three for 7.50 at WalMart.  Unfortunately the plastic package is not recyclable.  The other problem was I dropped and broke one while installing it.  There are no instructions as to what to do if this happens…

Posted on: May 18th, 2007 at 7:15am

ginger said...

Euclid - Do you have any of your LCA information available that you could post for those interested in your digging further into you findings?

Posted on: June 9th, 2007 at 3:45pm

KristinaRichardson said...

I found lots of useful information on CFLs including what to do if one breaks, how to dispose of them, and the difference between color temperatures at http://www.nvisioncfl.com

You may want to check it out, it answered most of my questions!

Posted on: September 19th, 2007 at 4:19pm

codethirteen said...

You can also improve on daylight light usage by investing in a sunpipe. My house is being built with one in each room, they are not that expensive and you have free bright life for life. It even amplifies the ambient light at night, enough for me to go to the bathroom without the need to use electrity on a half moon night.
http://www.sunpipe.co.uk/sunpipe/domestic/index.php
The same company also make wind draught, which catches the outside air and directs it in to reduce the requirement for airconditioning inside. I’m saving for that right now.

Posted on: October 1st, 2007 at 5:20am

sboyd said...

Euclid - did you publish your LCA of CFL?  I can’t find an LCA of CFL or incandescent bulbs anywhere, searching articles databases.  If you’ve done one, you should publish it!
:)

Posted on: November 2nd, 2007 at 2:00pm

Jim Bisnett said...

In my line of business, people are most concerned with the most cost savings.  It appears that the CFL is a great cost savings over traditional bulbs and I’ll be in line to get mine.  The environmental benefit is a great bonus.

Posted on: May 15th, 2008 at 1:57pm

Thomas said...

The CFLs do not last 5 years as stated here in this story. I know this from experience using them in our high school. They are trash and the school didn’t save any energy or money by using them. Don’t use them as they are dangerous if you drop them. The CFLs stink for sure.

Posted on: May 17th, 2008 at 11:12am

Mike said...

Thanks for your relatively useless anecdote, Thomas. I’ve had the exact opposite experience in my property management so I guess we cancel each other out.

Maybe if you didn’t buy dollar-store CFLs it’d work a bit better for you.

Posted on: May 28th, 2008 at 4:24pm

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